Posts by Esse quam videri

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Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister

by cappytan in

this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.

however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.

feel free to claim credit here.

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Mary - " I've even had thoughts of turning the car on in the garage and going to sleep inside. "

Elder #1 - Now, now Mary. Please don't even think that way. It's such a beautiful day outside. Why not get out and enjoy it. Maybe take the car down to the park.

Elder #2 - Yes, Mary, you should do that. Joan and myself like to go to River Park. They even have a nice, new bridge over the river. Why not drive down in your car and park. You could walk out onto the new bridge and enjoy the view of the water down below. It will be a real comfort to you.

Elder #1 - Excellent idea Brother.

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Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY

by cappytan in

jw
friends

this took quite a while this evening.

so worth it though.

hope you enjoy!

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No he would not!

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Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister

by cappytan in

this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.

however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.

feel free to claim credit here.

Esse quam videri

Mary - " I've even had thoughts of turning the car on in the garage and going to sleep inside. "

Elder - " You know who you remind me of Mary? You remind me of Job. "

WTF?

WTF?

WTF?

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My boyfriend is thinking of becoming reinstated

by gypsyvine in

i'm not really sure where to post this.. i've been with my boyfriend for 4 months now and i've really never been happier.

i was brought up in the church of christ with an elder father and i really believe in my religion, although i will admit to being a lousy christian at times due to sheer laziness (not wanting to get out of bed on sunday).

my boyfriend essentially lives with me.

Esse quam videri

'...I guess just keep me some kind of secret and then marry me someday...'

RUN!!!

Unless you like the feeling of a shredded heart.

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Is the Watchtower Society following in the footsteps of the Catholic Church?

by Esse quam videri in

many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the watchtower society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past.

the reports from wt and awake articles regarding the catholic church give credence to these members arguments.. note: comments by the society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'.

examination of the australian royal commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief.

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jhine 16 minutes ago
I don't think that there is any other faith group that publishes negative articles about different denominations like the WT

Rutherford, of course, was the absolute zenith of ripping into other religious organizations. Fred Franz was a poor second, but it did continue for many decades after Rutherford.

Continue, diminish and then, in 2016, disappear.

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Is the Watchtower Society following in the footsteps of the Catholic Church?

by Esse quam videri in

many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the watchtower society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past.

the reports from wt and awake articles regarding the catholic church give credence to these members arguments.. note: comments by the society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'.

examination of the australian royal commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief.

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steve2 4 minutes ago

All your quotations are at least from 4 years ago - before the proverbial sh*t hit the fan with lawsuits against the organization.

I am surprised that they printed such quotes as late as 2011. Very little has been printed in the last 10 years and of course we know that a 'fogging the members memory' campaign has been in full swing for many years. Hence the inability to access printed literature before 2000. Who would have thought that the internet would be used as a tool to reduce a groups knowledge of the past? Every detail of history should be recorded accurately and made available to everyone. Let the 'chips fall where they may'.The Watchtower Society has taken the opposite position. We see two forces working at odds with each other. The Watchtower trying to obscure history and others, of whom this forums' members constitute a part, trying to expose and reveal history. Really amazing to watch it unfold daily.

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Is the Watchtower Society following in the footsteps of the Catholic Church?

by Esse quam videri in

many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the watchtower society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past.

the reports from wt and awake articles regarding the catholic church give credence to these members arguments.. note: comments by the society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'.

examination of the australian royal commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief.

Esse quam videri

Many members of this forum speculate that the lawsuits faced by the Watchtower Society are leading to its demise or at least putting incredible pressure on its ability to function as it has in the past. The reports from WT and Awake articles regarding the Catholic Church give credence to these members arguments.

Note: Comments by the Society often have them taking the moral 'high ground'. Examination of the Australian Royal Commission testimony and findings would leave any 'thinking person' shaking their head in disbelief. ['Thinking person' is a term the Society used to like using a lot]

Watchtower - July 15 - 2001

'terrible damage is done when religious authorities tolerate abusive priests who persistently molest boys and girls. “Treating the children as occasions of sin,” commented one reporter in Ireland, “the church authorities merely moved on the offending priest [to another location].”
Is just transferring such a man an example of proper tolerance? Hardly! Suppose a medical body allowed an irresponsible surgeon to continue operating, transferring him from one hospital to another, even though he was killing or maiming his patients. A mistaken sense of professional loyalty might produce such “tolerance.” But what about the victims whose lives were lost or adversely affected because of negligent or even criminal practices?

Awake 2004 Nov 22

Studies on Sex Abuse by Priests

“Two long-awaited studies have found that the [U.S.] Roman Catholic Church suffered an epidemic of child sexual abuse that involved at least 4 percent of priests over 52 years and peaked with the ordination class of 1970, in which one of every 10 priests was eventually accused of abuse,” reports The New York Times. “The human toll amounted to 10,667 children allegedly victimized by 4,392 priests from 1950 to 2002, but the studies caution that even these numbers represent an undercount,” as many cases have not been reported. One study, conducted at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, disclosed that “priests were accused of abuse in more than 95 percent of dioceses and about 60 percent of religious orders.” The other study, by a Catholic national review board, pointed to a culture in Catholic seminaries that “tolerated moral laxity.”

Awake Dec8, 2005 Watching the World

Catholic Dioceses Bankrupt

'...By the end of 2004, three Catholic dioceses in the United States had filed for bankruptcy. All three were forced to take this step because of the financial costs of clergy sexual abuse scandals. A number of dioceses have talked about the possibility of having to file for bankruptcy, but the first to do so was the Archdiocese of Portland, Oregon, in July 2004. That action halted two lawsuits in which plaintiffs were seeking a total of $155 million in compensation for molestation. According to the National Catholic Reporter, “the archdiocese and its insurers already have paid more than $53 million to settle more than 130 claims by people who say they were abused by priests.” In September 2004, the diocese of Tucson, Arizona, became the second diocese to seek bankruptcy protection from multimillion dollar claims being brought against it. The diocese of Spokane, Washington, became the third, in December 2004...'

Awake Jan 8 - 2005 Watching the World

Church Doors Closing

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston, U.S.A., has announced that it will close 65 of its 357 parishes—almost one fifth of the total. Some 60 churches and 120 related buildings will be sold. According to The New York Times, this restructuring is “caused partly by declining attendance and increased financial problems that were worsened by the sexual abuse crisis among clergy members.” The newspaper quotes R. Scott Appleby, director of the Cushwa Center for the Study of American Catholicism at Notre Dame University, as saying that “the scandal has put a drain on the financial resources of the archdiocese” to such an extent that it cannot “keep parishes afloat.”

Awake March - 2011 Watching the World

The “credibility gap” caused by the Catholic Church’s “mismanagement of the clergy sex abuse crisis” has resulted in its “largest institutional crisis in centuries, possibly in church history.”—NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER, U.S.A.

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pdf's and info

by jaydee in

doing some searching for pdf's, and came across this place .

http://wiki.jw-archive.org/.

just wondering if anyone here has access to it please ?.

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Quiz - What do all of these jw.org WT Online Library references have in common?

by Esse quam videri in

watchtower online library.

sexual abuse.

after effects: g93 7/22 6-7; g93 10/8 4; g91 10/8 3-10. alleged abuser: w95 11/1 27-29. ancient times: g93 10/8 3. appreciation for awake!

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Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

Sexual Abuse

after effects: g93 7/22 6-7; g93 10/8 4; g91 10/8 3-10

alleged abuser: w95 11/1 27-29

ancient times: g93 10/8 3

appreciation for Awake! article on forgiveness: g96 2/8 30

Canada: g89 11/8 28; g86 5/22 30

Inuit children: g96 1/22 28

chart “Ways to Recover”: g91 10/8 9

contributing factors:

pornography: g87 3/22 28; g86 12/22 6-9

day-care centers: g87 12/8 6

evolution used as basis for excusing: w86 7/15 6

experiences:

call to Jehovah frees youth: g93 10/8 7

help for victims now adults: w95 11/1 25-29; g93 10/8 14; w92 12/15 11; g91 10/8 7-11

Internet dangers: g97 7/22 10-13

Ireland: g93 11/8 29

Asia: ct 166; g97 1/8 31; w96 11/1 5; g96 10/8 29; g93 9/8 29

increase: g93 11/22 28

Latin America: g97 10/22 28

Philippines: g97 4/8 11, 13; g89 5/22 29; g86 6/8 29

side effect of AIDS epidemic: g92 8/22 28

rape:

South Africa: g93 9/22 29

“repressed memories”: w95 11/1 25-29

United States: g86 8/8 30

Venezuela: g99 9/8 29

what to do if child is abused: g93 10/8 9

whether habitual molesters can be cured: g90 4/22 29

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Elders face the Lion of Self-Abuse

by Watchtower-Free in

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9 In his attempts to hinder God’s purpose, Satan shows himself to be vicious in yet another way. A famished lion feels no pity for its prey. It feels no compassion before the kill and experiences no remorse afterward. In a similar way, Satan has shown no pity for those whom he tries to devour. For example, think about how often Satan the Devil must have been lurking somewhere when the Israelites succumbed to such sins as sexual immorality and greed. When you read about the tragic consequences that befell immoral Zimri and greedy Gehazi, for instance, can you “see” the roaring lion reveling in his conquest?—Num. 25:6-8, 14, 15; 2 Ki. 5:20-27.